The Truth (from 100% credible source)Feb 7th, 2007 - 20:11:17

Chosen People = Racist Supremacist Ideology

Jews believe themselves a Chosen People divinely chosen by God and those who are not Jews are Gentiles meaning heathens .
But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days declares the Lord. I will put My Torah within them, and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
Jeremiah 31:31-34:
And God divinely presents real estate to his Chosen People .
And I will give to you and to your descendants after you, the land of your temporary residence, all the land of Canaan as an eternal possession and I will be a God to them.
Genesis 17:8
The Chosen People believe a Jewish Messiah will arise in Israel and he will smite Israels Gentile enemies .
I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen, like you (Moses), and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak all that I command him. And it shall come about that whoever will not listen to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require him
Deuterotomy 18:18-19:
The Jewish Messiah can only be Jewish
you may appoint a king over you, whom the Lord your God shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you.
Deuteronomy 17:15
He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel , in the process evicting and oppressing 5 million Palestinians and making their lives a 5th World hell .
And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth
Isaiah 11:12
Then the Jewish Messiah will be murdered by the Chosen People themselves.
And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for himself; and the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
Daniel 9:26
The Gentile nations will come against Israel to invade with the sole intention of destroying the Jewish people and the Chosen Peoples God will directly intervene to destroy the Gentile .
For I am with you', says the Lord, 'to save you; though I make a full end of all nations where I have scattered you, yet I will not make a complete end of you.
Jeremiah 30:11
God will then judge the nations depending upon their treatment of the the Chosen People .
In those days and at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.
Joel 1:1-2
The Jews as the chosen people will then rule the world and we Gentiles will serve the Jews .
Foreigners will rebuild your walls, and their kings will serve you.
Isaiah 60:10
Ant the Gentiles will financially pay for it , of course , the funny thing is we are at the moment paying for Israel , so whats new ?
Your gates will always stand open, they will never be shut, day or night , so that men may bring you the wealth of the nations , their kings led in triumphal procession.
Isaiah 60:11
And those of us Gentiles who refuse this servitude to the Chosen People will be smitten down and condemned to eternally damnation .
For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you will perish; it will be utterly ruined.
Isaiah 60:12
And seeing we are in the Chosen Peoples eyes guilty for our Fathers sins we will have to bow down at the Chosen Peoples feet apologize and praise them !
The sons of your oppressors will come bowing before you; all who despise you will bow down at your feet and will call you the City of the LORD, Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
Isaiah 60:14

I believe this religion should have these offensive verses removed from their holy books , afterall the Chosen People themselves are succeeding in having this verse removed from Christian books .
When Pilate saw that he was not succeeding at all, but that a riot was breaking out instead, he took water and washed his hands in the sight of the crowd, saying, 'I am innocent of this man's blood. Look to it yourselves. And the whole people said in reply, 'His blood be upon us and upon our children.
Matthew27: 24-25

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AnneFeb 8th, 2007 - 04:14:57

Unlike Islam, the Jewish faith does not condemn people of other faiths.

Judaism believes in a Noahide Covenant, which holds that non-Jews need only abide by seven of the ten commandments in order to be deemed righteous by God, and thereby achieve heaven in the afterlife. They need not be believers. They need only to live with respect for their parents, their spouses, their children, and of course, they may not steal or murder, or covet what does not belong to them.

According to Islam, on the other hand, all unbelievers are to go to hell. Period. No questions. No exceptions.

Islam, moreover, holds that all non-Muslim property is actually belongs to Allah, and may therefore be legitimately targeted as booty, or fey.

The Koran holds that Jews are the sons of apes and pigs (Sura 2:verse 65 and 5:60), killed their prophets, lie, cheat and steal, and Muslims may not befriend or associate with them; (Christians are equally scored in that regard).

Actually, Jews and Christians ('People of the Book,' a highly derogatory term, in the Koranic context) must be subjugated and taxed, and made to feel humiliation, for Muslims 'are the best of people.' (3:110). Most Jews, however, are considered wicked. Only those who accept Islam are worthy.

Roughly one third of the Koran consists of hatred for non-Muslims, most of that directed at Jews. Read it for yourself, and find out. The entire Koran is here, complete with ten translations into English, and even transliterations from Arabic: http://www.quranbrowser.com/

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Ignorant people are everywhereFeb 8th, 2007 - 20:19:19

Anne Feb 8th, 2007

Read the First post(The Truth)and learn you ignorant piece of s****

Here's some More Truth : http://christianparty.net/snuffjews.htm

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khalifFeb 8th, 2007 - 23:07:52

Firstly it is apparent from Anne’s post that it lacks objectivity and honesty and is only a biased post against Islam. Perhaps before you jump to make comments on this great religion you would carry out some serious research. For giving a false impression of anything is a crime in itself which is what in my opinion your post gives.

As for the Islam and its followers the Muslims treating the people of the book I.E the Christians and the Jews, I wonder what you would call the persecution of Muslims and Jews in Spain and the Spanish inquisitions that were part of it.
May I now remind you that it was the Muslims and the Islamic state at the time,
that took the Jews in. The Jews were treated very well in the Ottoman state an Islamic Muslim state. The Jews lived in peace with the Muslims as neighbours who took them in when the Christians kicked them out. Also in the Crusades while the Christians were also killing Jews not just Muslims. It was the Muslims that protected the Jews and the Christians who lived there with them remember that Byzantine itself was ransacked by other Christians the Crusaders who even went and killed Christians of the eastern Churches.
Saladin was a Muslim ruler who was called by non Muslims as merciful. You should take note that yes the people of the book pay Jizya tax which is at 1% and in any state the people who live there are expected to pay tax, however the Muslims pay a tax of Zakat at 2.5%.

It is very easy to pick and edit or take verse out of context to give a misleading impression this can be done with all or most religious texts.

As for this comment “('People of the Book,' a highly derogatory term, in the Koranic context) must be subjugated and taxed, and made to feel humiliation, for Muslims 'are the best of people.' (3:110). Most Jews, however, are considered wicked. Only those who accept Islam are worthy.”

I will say lets refer to this:
The word dhimmi (plural dimam) literally means 'protection, care, custody, covenant of protection, compact; responsibility, answerableness; financial obligation, liability, debt; inviolability, security of life and property; safeguard, guarantee, security; conscience' and ahl-dhimmi is 'the free non-Muslim subjects living in Muslim countries who, in return for paying the capital tax, enjoyed prote ction and safety. – wikipedia- name = 'Wehr'>Wehr, Arabic English Dictionary, fourth edition, p. 360



From the Qur’an

God does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes – from dealing kindly and justly with them.

Indeed, God loves those who act justly. God only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion – (forbids) that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.” (Quran 60:8-9)


[As for such (non-Muslims) who do not fight you on account of (your) faith, or drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness (also love and respect) and to deal with them with equity , for God loves those who act equitably. God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of (your) faith and drive you forth from your homelands
or aid (others) in driving you forth. As for those from among you who turn towards them for alliance, it is they who are wrongdoers.] (Al-Mumtahanah 60:8-9)

[Say (O Muslims), O People of the Book! Come to a common term which we and you hold in common: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall not ascribe divinity to none beside Him, and that we shall not take human beings for our lord beside Allah, and if they turn away, then say: bear witness that we submit ourselves unto Him.] (Aal `Imran 3:64)
[And do not argue with the People of Book except in a most kindly manner, except for those of them who are bent on evildoing, and say: “We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which has come down to you; our Lord and yours is One and it is to Him that we (all) submit ourselves.”] (Al-`Ankabut 29:46)



[O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety and fear Allah, for Allah is well acquainted with all that you do.] (Al-Ma’idah 5:8)

[O humankind! We (Allah) have created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female and have made you into nations and tribes, so that you may come to know one another. Verily, the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous (or Allah-conscious) of you. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware.] (Al-Hujurat 49:13)

These are just a few examples for an in depth understanding of the verse in the correct context and application refer to the links I have provided. I hope this post will remove any false impressions and also remove the shadow of ignorance with the light of knowledge. Jews, Muslims and Christians have lived in peace for a long time I leave you with the examples of Al Andalusia, Ottoman Sultanate and Saladin.

Links :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saladin

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:U0yP75BSERwJ:www.islamonline.net/e nglish/Contemporary/2005/04/Article01.shtml+islam+non+muslims+treat+hadith& hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=uk

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:U0yP75BSERwJ:www.islamonline.net/e nglish/Contemporary/2005/04/Article01.shtml+islam+non+muslims+treat+hadith& hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=uk

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Qmv4UIdNpioJ:www.islamonline.net/s ervlet/Satellite%3Fcid%3D1119503545930%26pagename%3DIslamOnline-English-Ask _Scholar%252FFatwaE%252FFatwaEAskTheScholar+Muslims+protected+jews&hl=en&ct =clnk&cd=20&gl=uk

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:1VVbnzMyr_0J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Dhimmi+dhimmi+means+good+meaning+islam&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk


www.sunnipath.com
www.livingislam.org
www.islamonline.com

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GentileSep 11th, 2007 - 14:52:04

I am deeply upset by the comments written by the doubtful Anne. Before I go any further I would to mention that there is no verse 65 in chapter (surah) 2 of the Koran, and verse 60 in chapter 5. As a matter of fact, chapter 2 has only 52 verses; chapter 5 has 7 verses. In short, what Anne has written is a fabrication.

Of course, the average reader will never believe me. He has been so brainwashed by TV, so inculcated by lies, so bewildered with ideas, opinions, viewpoints, etc. that he doesn't have a chance in hell to remove the clutter and see through it all.

Sometimes I wish I never knew the truth, for it is painful.

Books I recommend for truth seekers:

George Orwell's 1984
'The International Jew' by Henry Ford (The Founder of Ford Motor Company)

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notajew but close enough!1111Nov 30th, 2007 - 09:05:41

'the average reader will never believe me. He has been so brainwashed by TV, so inculcated by lies, so bewildered with ideas, opinions, viewpoints, etc. that he doesn't have a chance in hell to remove the clutter and see through it all.'


Oh yeah, and all those videos going around the 'net and Middle Eastern TVs of good little Muslim children spouting off stuff, the obscenity level of which would make any REAL parent kill themself from embarrassment - I'm sure those have nothing to do with it.


:)

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